網易數帆陳諤:低代碼普及需要時間,最終會被大家接受

{"type":"doc","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"處於成長期的低代碼行業,雖然備受爭議但仍在不斷自我更新迭代。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"去年,網易數帆首次發佈了輕舟低代碼應用開發平臺。作爲雲原生系列產品之一,該平臺目前已升級到了2.0版本。網易數帆在原有的軟件開發邏輯之上推出了全新的可視化編程語言NASL,自帶可視化的分支、循環、賦值、調用等編程語法組件,可以通過“拖拉拽”方式快速創建應用。InfoQ在輕舟低代碼應用開發平臺2.0發佈會上專訪了網易數帆輕舟產品總經理陳諤,聊聊低代碼的實際應用和未來發展。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"heading","attrs":{"align":null,"level":2},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"研發低代碼平臺,先解決運維問題"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"低代碼平臺的使用門檻很低,這是經過事實驗證的。即使是對編程沒有概念的人經過培訓後也可以開發出一定的應用,但回到平臺本身的開發卻沒有那麼簡單。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"相較於輕舟系列的其他產品,低代碼平臺去年才發佈,而推出比較晚的原因是,網易數帆在尋找低代碼方向上運維問題的解決方法。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"運維最重要的是對應用生命週期的管理,除了常見的創建、發佈外,還包括申請資源、啓動或關閉應用、發佈應用更新和應用的水平擴展。低代碼平臺還會涉及數據運維的能力,如數據庫的Schema變更管理等。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"但在雲原生體系下,各個企業有同樣的運維體系標準,低代碼平臺面對的接口一致性很高,自動化運維的工作就很容易完成。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"“隨着雲原生領域的積累,基於雲原生的運維標準體系建立起來,整個低代碼的拼圖就完整了。”陳諤說道。網易數帆使用雲原生技術完成了運維生命週期管理的建設。比如輕舟提供了中間件平臺,開發者既可以對接已有的中間件、數據庫,也可以託管在輕舟平臺,完成整個中間件、數據庫層面的自動化運維。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"基於Kubernetes等雲原生技術,輕舟低代碼平臺使用標準的技術棧,企業系統只要在雲原生生態內,就可以使用輕舟低代碼平臺進行系統搭建。輕舟低代碼平臺的API網關和企業應用集成就是低代碼通向雲原生底座的入口,將這兩者聯繫起來。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"“如果沒有云原生體系,即使做出了一個低代碼平臺,企業也不一定認可這個平臺的運維能力。”陳諤表示,“接入企業的運維體系時缺乏標準的情況,使得低代碼很難真正地落地。”"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"解決了運維問題外,低代碼平臺當然要具備基本的代碼邏輯描述能力、數據訪問能力、對流程定義能力。進一步地,低代碼平臺還要具備高可用、高性能和可維護性等。這些是隱藏在低代碼平臺背後,廠商爲企業提供服務時需要具備的能力。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","mar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Web、Spring這樣的專業技術棧,只要解決了這個問題,非專業開發者也能做應用開發。”陳諤說道。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"網易數帆內部將低代碼市場分成了兩類:零代碼平臺和低代碼平臺。在陳諤看來,零代碼平臺更加追求細分場景上的研發效率,比如純流程應用、純表單填報,但處理一定複雜度應用的能力卻難以預測。而與傳統軟件開發模式沒有太大區別的低代碼平臺,從數據庫、模型驅動的設計出發,有邏輯、頁面等概念,可以支持更復雜的企業應用。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"當前市場上有很多引擎式的低代碼平臺,這類平臺是在解釋執行低代碼上編寫的邏輯,處在運行時的狀態。另一類平臺更接近編程語言+IDE的模式,生成編程語言的代碼,然後產生編程語言代碼對應的產品,最後發佈到線上。輕舟低代碼應用開發平臺屬於後者。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"據悉,輕舟低代碼這次推出可視化編程語言NASL將低代碼使用場景拓寬到了中等複雜度的企業應用,同時也使低代碼平臺具備了編程語言的能力。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"陳諤表示,推出可視化編程語言概念,一是爲了避免bug進入運行階段,二是可以爲這門編程語言做language server。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"開發期間很容易引入各種錯誤,這些錯誤如果留到運行階段,開發人員就要面臨非常麻煩的問題。鑑於類型相關的問題是整個開發過程中最常見的bug來源之一,網易數帆引入了靜態類型系統,來做類型檢測。而language server完善後,其可以爲整個低代碼平臺提供完整的調試能力,不會出現無法跟蹤子系統狀態的情況。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"“使用低代碼平臺,對企業來說是一個需要逐漸嘗試的過程。”陳諤說道。企業提出希望使用低代碼平臺的場景,然後網易數帆內部的低代碼教練來幫助企業做開發(當然也可以由低代碼教練培訓企業員工自行開發低代碼應用),之後再落實到實際開發環境中,最後評估應用是否與其運維體系匹配、能不能和業務真正集成等。“需要考慮的東西其實很多,這些都得一點點去嘗試。”"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"在陳諤看來,當前的低代碼平臺更多是要解決人與數據、人與流程之間的交互問題,主要應用場景是企業內部的信息管理和流程相關的場景。人事系統、財務系統、行政系統等組合出符合企業管理需求的應用系列。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"另外一些企業應用場景則是目前通用低代碼平臺還不適合的,例如:"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"bulletedlist","content":[{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"企業爲客戶提供類似零代碼、可定製的SaaS服務。這類需求的複雜度超出了中等複雜度的範圍。"}]}]},{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":"強To C企業應用。這在前端方面的複雜度也超出了中等複雜度的範圍。"}]}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"color","attrs":{"color":"#494949","name":"user"}}],"text":" "}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"colo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