China Files Case Against Intel's Wireless Network
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/29/1533242&from=rss
Posted by Hemos on Monday May 29, @01:14PM
from the going-thru-the-money dept.
Posted by Hemos on Monday May 29, @01:14PM
from the going-thru-the-money dept.
Krishna Dagli writes "China has launched a case against American chipmaker Intel's near-monopoly on encryption standards for wireless local area network (WLAN) equipment, state press reported Monday."
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Can we?
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-1 Lack of detail.
Re:Can we?
(Score:4, Insightful)China has accused the makers of the technology developed by the chipmaking giant Intel of unethical behaviour and has asked the International Standards Organization (ISO) to review the case, Xinhua news reported.
It says that the American Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), actual makers of the technology, broke ISO rules when its national bodies voted on new technology to mend security loopholes in the WLAN standard.
China now wants the ISO to investigate the fast-track process to determine "whether the ethical and procedural rules and principles have indeed been violated and whether the ballots have been unfairly influenced by those ethical and procedural violations".
That is what has been done, it chose new technology and in doing so apparently broke rules on voting for procedures.
china? whaa?
(Score:3, Insightful)(http://slashdot.org/currentlyoffline...)
also, how is it intels fault theyve put a ton of money into researching it? (that may be slightly ignorant of the actual facts, but if they wrote the standards, it stands to reason they created it)
Re:china? whaa?
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Nothing to do with patent law.
Short version. IEEE submitted 80211i, China submitted WAPI to ISO to be international wireless encryption standards. IEEE won, WAPI lost. China is complaining that IEEE did something bad during the lead up to the voting process. No news sources are reporting what that something was as far as I can see.
So we have nebulous claims of interference in the ISO process. No more, no less.
(I'm not sure whether I dislike/distrust Intel or China more)
Well call the kettle black...
(Score:5, Funny)Hah!
Chinese Hypocrisy
(Score:5, Interesting)Consider the princelings of China [businessweek.com]. They and their parents are members of the Chinese communist party. These princelings live, for long stretches, in the West and enjoy its freedoms and prosperity. Yet, the parents of the princelings fully support and enforce the draconian Chinese "laws" that crush human rights in China.
I have personally met some of these princelings.
Do they realize their hypocrisy? Yes. Do they care? No.
Here is another, more damning, example. In 2001 in Northern California, the Chinese consulate in San Francisco sponsored an anti-Falun-Gong meeting conducted in Santa Clara, California. Chinese students from San Jose State University, Stanford University, and other neighboring universities, attended the meeting. The Chinese student associations at the respective universities fully supported the anti-Falun-Gong meeting.
These Chinese students enjoy the freedom and prosperity in the West but, actually, support the draconian Chinese "laws" that crush human rights in China.
Do they realize their hypocrisy? Yes. Do they care? No.
By now, you should realize that the authoritarian government in China exists for one reason: the majority of Chinese either support the authoritarian government or are indifferent to it.
Suit against intel?
(Score:1, Flamebait)Stands to reason, any country that kills its own populace certainly would do something like this.
-WS
Re:Suit against intel?
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In other news ...
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This is like Freddy Vs Jason
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So, I guess that makes Intel the Jason in this conflict.
LK
Open standards
(Score:2, Insightful)Exactly how is it better to replace one proprietary standard with another. If they were serious about this, perhaps proposing an open standard would be a bit more constructive.
Re:Open standards
(Score:5, Insightful)(Last Journal: Monday May 30, @11:02AM)
companies gripped about.
As for the IEEE - it ISN'T just an American body. The truth is that it has an American aspect (that is certainly large and powerful), but IEEE is an INTERNATIONAL organization. How do I know? - I was a member for 15 years. I've even been involved in IEEE standards creation slightly. This is usually done by company representatives. So if Chineese companies were to send representation to IEEE standards efforts, they would have some influence in same.
You're as likely to Siemens or Alcatel, etc involved in these bodies as you are to see Intel, etc. It is more appropriately a mechanism mostly staffed by professional engineers representing their company's interests that create IEEE standards.
Try this...
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Will cause trouble in DC.
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Big Business or China?
Since most of them in DC (GOPer & DEMs) are in love with both whose side do they support?
Re:Will cause trouble in DC.
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Re:Will cause trouble in DC.
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http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/04/05/HNbarret tochina_1.html?source=rss&url=http://www.infoworld .com/article/04/04/05/HNbarrettochina_1.html [infoworld.com]
FTA: "The U.S. government has also weighed in on the issue. U.S. Secretary of Commerce Donald Evans, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick, sent a letter to senior Chinese government officials in March expressing concern over the implementation of China's WLAN standard and that the move created a dangerous precedent for using standards as a barrier to international trade."
Waiting for the DVD...
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Bizarre
(Score:2)I'm guessing that some person who's company developed the Chinese alternative has an uncle on the Politburo.
If this is the case, it's a shame - there is so much that our governments could do for us if they weren't so corrupt. If this is not the case, then I hope someone will explain what is going on.
it's all about WAPI
(Score:1)Grow up.
(Score:3, Insightful)(http://lspol.blogspot.com/)
We've all got our personal opinions on politics and the politics of technology, but if our words are to mean anything, we've got to appeal to higher standards.
Why the surprise....
(Score:1)China Really Shouldn't be Complaining
(Score:3, Insightful)can't trust wireless encryption anyway
(Score:3, Informative)If you want secure wireless communications, you have to use software encryption implemented in open source software.
see times are changing
(Score:3, Funny)Legalize and the right to a democratic networking standard.... China is indeed becoming more westernized all the time... hahahaha... I love it.
Its the IEEE they really have the gripe with...
(Score:5, Interesting)(http://service-architecture.blogspot.com/)
I love the idea of clandestine meetings around ISO and IEEE meetings, more people would go if that was true!
Usless comment on ISO
(Score:2)Hypocrisy
(Score:1)Re:Another anti-China article
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so, whatever technical topics you have
(Score:1)Re:Because China plays fairly!
(Score:2)Re:Another anti-China article
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Re:China just wants to eavesdrop
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Re:China just wants to eavesdrop
(Score:1)Re:China just wants to eavesdrop
(Score:2)I don't trust any encryption system that isn't open and well-analyzed, regardless of the country of origin.
That said, I'm sure that some Chinese people are capable of developing strong cryptography. They broke SHA-1 [schneier.com], after all.
Re:yup, i second that fuck china comment
(Score:1)qz
Re:Another anti-China article
(Score:2)I think too it is great that monopolies are fought. And if it is unethical protagonists that fight them, well, at least they are good for something.
Re:Falun Gong are pacifists
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