門羅幣的中西方觀念淺談


Through my work in both the Western and Chinese cryptocurrency communities, I have come to see risk in how Western and Chinese cryptocurrency enthusiasts—Monero enthusiasts in particular—perceive each other. This article discusses my observations and gives some suggestions on steps that will bring the two communities closer and make Monero stronger.

我在西方和中國的加密貨幣社區都工作過,這讓我有機會觀察到西方和中國的幣友(尤其是門羅幣粉們)如何看待對方及其風險。我想就這篇文章總結一下我觀察的結果,並就如何讓兩個社區走得更近,讓門羅幣更強大提出了一些建議。

Nature of Interest

First, there is projection from each community onto the other of what matters most to it. From my first work translating Monero articles for the Western community I have been inundated with technology theory and philosophy. In contrast, as a freelance writer for the blockchain media in China, articles tend to be on price and mining. Westerners, then, tend to see Chinese as disproportionately motivated by theory and philosophy, and Chinese see Westerners as manipulating price and perversely impacting mining.

Chinese pride themselves on being open. And, really, we are less private than Americans and Europeans. It is common to share salary and personal spending information, for example. I believe this comes historically from fewer secrets being kept in extended families in China. Westerners, on the other hand, are more concerned with social issues.

Informal online research supports this observation of differing priorities. For example, very telling is the difference when Google searching “monero” versus Baidu searching “門羅幣, ” the Chinese spelling of Monero. Google and Baidu are the most popular search engines in the Western world and in China, respectively. Guess what happens with the searches? The results are shown below:

各自的興趣點

首先,每個社區都將自己關心的問題投射到另一個社區上。從我第一次爲西方社區翻譯門羅幣文章起,我就被淹沒在無邊的技術理論和哲學中。相比之下,作爲中國區塊鏈媒體的自由撰稿人,媒體要求我們撰寫的文章往往是關於價格和挖礦的。因此,西方人傾向於認爲中國人在很大程度上受到了理論與哲學的驅動,而在中國也有人認爲西方人通過操縱價格影響整個挖礦業。

中國人以光明磊落爲榮。事實上我們也不像美國人和歐洲人那麼注重隱私。例如,談論工資和個人消費信息在中國是司空見慣的。我認爲這可能是歷史的原因,因爲在中國大家庭中很少有人把這些當作祕密。另一方面,西方人更關心社會問題。

爲了驗證這一猜測,我做了一個非正式的網絡調查。我們知道,谷歌和百度分別是西方和中國最大的搜索引擎。我分別在谷歌上輸入”Monero”和百度上搜索關鍵詞“門羅幣”,猜猜搜索結果怎麼樣?結果如下:


In the top 10 Google rankings, technical information accounts for 50%. This includes the recognized Monero website, getmonero.org, as well as Wikipedia and Twitter. Next, 20% is news and investment data. As 10%, only one exchange, coinbase.com, appears.

Among the top 10 rankings of Baidu in China, on the other hand, the largest proportion is 40% dedicated to mining. Next, technology accounts for 30%. 20% of search results focus on investment data. Finally, there was one odd website presenting information about the use of Monero on the dark net.

在谷歌排名前10位中,技術信息佔50%。這包括公認的Monero網站,getmonero.org, 以及維基百科和Twitter。其次,20%是新聞和投資數據。只有10%是交易所,那就是coinbase.com

另一方面,在中國百度排名前十條中,挖礦所佔比例最大,達到40%;其次是技術,佔30%;然後是投資數據,佔20%。最後,還有一個奇怪的網站陳述了門羅幣在暗網上的使用。

Popularity

Western enthusiasts tend to think of the Chinese Monero community as small. Seemingly there are few openly Chinese enthusiasts known on Reddit, Telegram, or other platforms, and most of the online guys with mysterious handles seem explicitly Western. Well, it turns out the Chinese Monero community is large. I would argue that our number is actually comparable (less than an order of magnitude away, say) to that of Western enthusiasts.

Beyond my subjective impression, research supports this: A search for “XMR” among QQ groups—one of the favorite discussion methods in China—yields about 18K subscribers (most of them interested in mining). This can be compared to about 14K subscribers to r/MoneroMining and 158K subscribers to r/Monero on Reddit. And, moreover, I would argue that the percentage of Chinese Reddit subscribers is high compared to the percentage of Westerners in QQ groups.

受歡迎度

西方的門羅幣粉們認爲中國的門羅幣社區可能很小。也許在Reddit、Telegram或其他平臺上有一些公開的中國門羅幣幣友,但大多數網絡上的神祕人物似乎明顯都是西方人。然而,意想不到的是,中國的門羅幣社區異常強大。我認爲,我們的人頭數實際上與西方的幣友相當(比如說,相差不到一個數量級)。

這絕非源自我個人的主觀判斷,而是基於我在中文和英語社區的調查。在中國QQ羣(中國最大的網絡社區之一)中搜索“XMR”,社羣人頭總數大約爲18K(其中大多數人對挖礦感興趣)。與之相比,Reddit上大約有14K名r/MoneroMining (門羅幣挖礦) 用戶和158K名r/Monero (門羅幣)用戶。我認爲,與QQ羣中西方人的比例相比,中國Reddit用戶的比例更高。

Organization

In China, there are some high-quality reporters and experts. I recommend the XMR column created by Jindouyun as first class. He serialized the translation of Mastering Monero into a nice column: Master Monero. In addition, his translations of articles about Monero wallets are excellent. Respected expert theNoblesse has translated a significant part of the getmonero.org website into Chinese. I (FutureFan1) also welcome you to read some of the articles I have written and translated on Jianshu.

Yet despite these efforts and individuals, among others, the organization of Monero enthusiasts in China is a mess. We look longingly outside, where there is getmonero.org, monerooutreach.org, and other official and semi-official websites, and people. Yes, I know—there is nothing formally official for Monero. Indeed, there are no de jure officials, but there are de facto officials and websites. In China, we struggle to establish this organization in a Chinese language framework.

機構組織

中國也有一些優質的門羅幣記者和專家。我首推的是“筋斗雲”在頭等艙創建的門羅幣專題。他將《精通門羅幣》的翻譯連載成一個不錯的專欄。他翻譯的關於門羅幣錢包的文章也相當出色。此外,the Noblesse已將社區公認官網getmonero.org/zh-cn的大部分內容翻譯成中文。也歡迎你閱讀我(未來控)在“簡書”上撰寫和翻譯的一些文章:jianshu.com

然而,儘管有一些人正在爲之努力,門羅幣中國社區仍然不是很有組織性。我們渴望從外面的世界探聽到消息,那裏有getmonero.org/zh-cn, monerooutreach.org,以及其他官方和半官方網站,還有其他致力於擁護門羅幣的幣友。是的,我知道門羅幣的確沒有真正意義上的官網。事實上,門羅幣只是沒有法律意義上的官網,卻有社區公認的官網。中國的幣友們應該明白getmonero.org是一個負責任的權威機構。我們也正努力建設其中文版的社區。

Doubt and Worry

Westerners have doubts and worries about Cryptocurrency and Monero that are different from those in China. Westerners may worry that the inventor of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, was the government, or that some altcoin is a scam. With Monero, Westerners may have technical worries related to traceability. Chinese, on the other hand, worry that Monero is an invention of the West to take money from Chinese. We have conspiracy theories that way.

懷疑與擔憂

西方人對加密貨幣和門羅幣的懷疑和擔憂與中國不同。西方人可能會擔心比特幣的發明者中本聰(Satoshi Nakamoto)是政府,或者一些山寨幣是騙局。對於門羅幣,西方人可能對其在可追溯性的技術上有擔憂。而中國人擔心門羅幣則是門羅幣西方人爲了從中國人口袋裏撈錢而發明的。我們有一種陰謀論。

The Future

We all hope for a bright future for cryptocurrency and Monero. The steps needed are quite visible to me, and here are my recommendations:

First, strengthen the translation of Western Monero information resources, including the official website, the book Mastering Monero, and Monero Outreach documents.

Second, accelerate the Chineseization of Monero wallets. The official GUI wallet does have a Chinese version, but the Chinese translation is not thorough. Some Chinese people who don’t understand any English at all cannot make it through installation. The Chineseization of the wallet should consider two matters: First, the Chinese version of the wallet should be thoroughly translated, and second, the wallet should be placed in the Chinese app store so that Chinese can easily download it on their mobile phones. I hope that developers can support Chinese improvements soon and enable broad Chinese use of Monero wallets.

Third, advance Monero in Chinese mainstream media. At present, China's blockchain mainstream media, such as Bihu and Knowledge Planet, have not even set up discussion of Monero. This may require some support from the Western community.

Fourth, establish high-quality Monero social circles in China. We have established the "Monero Technology Exchange Group" on WeChat, which is well aligned with the Western Monero community (Jindouyun and theNobless, mentioned above, are part of this). And MrScott, the manager of XMR on sina blog and Cointime on 8bt, is also involved in this Group (to join this WeChat group, please contact user “mpmandarin”).

Fifth, strengthen the exchanges between Chinese and Western communities. Since the core technicians of Monero and most of the early participants are from the West, to strengthen the understanding of the members of the Chinese community outreach could be undertaken together. For example, a Chinese-Western talk format could be used, with a Chinese host interviewing Western technical personnel and active community participants to enhance mutual understanding.

These steps would grow the Monero community in China, and strengthen Monero for everyone. Monero is a global phenomenon, and the Chinese community should rise up to find natural balance and global growth.

面向未來

我們都希望加密貨幣和門羅幣有一個光明的未來。所以我們要採取一些措施加強門羅幣中國社區的建設,我的建議是:

第一,加強門羅幣信息的翻譯,包括官網、《精通門羅幣》和門羅幣推廣組網站。

第二,加快門羅幣錢包的中國化。官方的GUI錢包確實有中文版本,但其中文翻譯並不全面。一些根本不懂英語的中國人無法操作安裝。錢包的中國化需要考慮兩件事:首先,應該徹底翻譯中文版錢包。其次,錢包應該放在中國的應用市場中,這樣中國人就可以更便捷地下載到手機上。我希望開發者能儘快支持中文版錢包的改進升級,並讓更多的中國人可以使用門羅幣錢包。

第三,門羅幣應該在中國主流媒體中建立專題板塊。目前,中國的區塊鏈主流媒體,如幣乎和知識星球,甚至還沒有建立關於門羅幣的討論。這可能需要西方社區的一些支持。

第四,在中國建立高質量的門羅幣社交圈。我們在微信上建立了“門羅幣技術交流羣”,與西方門羅幣社區保持着良好的合作關係。上文提到的“筋斗雲”和theNoblesse已加入該羣,還有門羅幣微博超話社區和巴比特鏈節點門羅幣板塊的負責人Mr Scott也在羣中。我們期待更多的門羅幣友們加入討論(請添加微信“mpmandarin”加入門羅幣技術交流羣)。

第五,加強中西交流。由於門羅幣的核心技術人員和大部分早期的參與者都來自西方,因此加強華人社區推廣應一併進行。例如,可以採用中西對話的形式,由中國主持人採訪西方技術人員和活躍的社區參與者,以增進相互瞭解。

這些舉措都將促進門羅幣社區在中國的推廣,並加強個人對門羅幣的瞭解。門羅幣是一個全球性的項目。應該通過促進門羅幣中國社區的增長,找到一個自然平衡點,從而最終實現門羅幣的全球性增長。

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