左耳朵耗子：从“打工人”到技术创业者，我是如何作死的

{"type":"doc","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"“你要问我现在是不是最好的时代，我觉得从1998年我职业生涯开启到现在，我经历过的这20多年，就是最好的时代。未来是不是比这更好我不知道。但我没有生不逢时，我有幸生在这样一个黄金年代，经历过了许多最刺激的事情”。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"今年45岁的陈皓（网名：左耳朵耗子），是一位骨灰级的老程序员。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"早先，他“叛逆”地从老家给他分了房子的国企离职，毅然决定去大城市闯荡，结果遇到了互联网泡沫，基本找不到工作，只能做个外包。而过了几年事业要有发展的时候，又遇到了08年金融危机，没有去成毕业时最想去的微软。在2010年降薪降职去亚马逊（降薪20万\/年，从总监降到一级leader, 那时没人知道亚马逊是个技术公司）。他先后在汤森路透、亚马逊、阿里等公司从事软件开发工作，而后又自立门户开启技术创业之路，走上了创业“不归路”，创办了 MegaEase，致力于通过云原生基础设施给所有公司输出顶级互联网公司的技术架构和基础设施。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"在陈皓的整个成长过程中，可以看到他并不是一个安分的人，他总是在做一些一般人做不出来的事情，因为他从银行出来的原因，就是觉得自己学了正确的专业，也遇到了正确的时间，但是却呆在了错误的地方，所以，他的人生目的就是为了要去经历最有意思的事……"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"近日，InfoQ跟MegaEase创始人，也是中国基础软件创新大会微服务&服务治理专场出品人陈皓聊了聊他进入软件开发行业摸爬滚打的这20年，他见证了互联网、移动互联网的兴起与繁荣，也正在见证着云原生、基础软件等新技术风口的诞生....应该如何把握机会，跟得上时代的步伐，作为多次技术浪潮的亲历者，陈皓的经历或许能给技术人带来一些启发。"}]},{"type":"heading","attrs":{"align":null,"level":2},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"放弃国企分的房子，我要去互联网世界看看"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"1998年，刚毕业的陈皓找到了一份令人羡慕的工作，他进入了云南省工商银行担任技术员，主要负责银行网络、邮件系统和办公自动化系统。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"没多久，陈皓还分到了一套房子，年纪轻轻便成为“有房一族”。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"在银行待了2年，陈皓却越来越感到工作没意思。银行把很多工作都外包出去给了系统集成商，而自己内部的技术人员不做实施，只做维护，没什么可以发挥的空间。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"而此时，体制之外正风起云涌。在1998年那个时代，新闻上每天都能看到当时的IT巨头微软、IBM、Oracle、Sun、Borland……等等IT公司的新闻，当时的微软就是业界标杆，是程序员梦寐以求的公司。陈皓对此也不例外。所以，他想出去闯闯。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"他的辞职信只写了一句话： 本人对现有的工作毫无兴趣，申请辞职。“处长说，那分给你的房子就要收回了。我说‘好啊’”。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"“银行不代表我的未来，一套房也不能保住我的未来”，尽管遭到了几乎所有亲朋好友的反对，陈皓还是决然要离开。“我在正确的时间，学了正确的专业（计算机专业），却到了一个错误的地方，银行束缚住了我”。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"从银行离开后，陈皓决定去大城市上海闯一闯。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"但当自己拎着行李箱站在上海火车站的一瞬间，陈皓突然觉得，自己在老家的那些骄傲在偌大的城市面前或许已经荡然无存了。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"闯荡上海的第一步并不顺利，还遇到互联网泡沫，所有的互联网公司都在倒闭。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"第一次求职面试，陈皓就感受到了极大的挫败感，面试官问了他半个小时问题，他却一个也答不上来。刚毕业没见过多大的世面，技术能力跟不上，加上性格内向，陈皓吓得连头都不敢擡，更不敢回答面试官的问题。接下来的几次面试仍是这样的尴尬局面。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"最终在同学的帮助下，他终于找到了在上海的第一份工作，进入给银行做系统集成软件的南天公司。期间，因为技术差，常犯低级错误，连一些简单的技术问题也不知道怎么解决。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"陈皓感到很迷茫，他常常自我怀疑是否做了错误的决定。但他又不甘心回老家，当时是顶着所有人的反对出来的，还放弃了一套房子，现在陷入了如此尴尬的情形。另说回去了，整个人都想直接“消失”掉，因为必然有很多人在看自己的笑话。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"他决定改变现状。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"不会沟通，交际能力差，他就经常出去参加面试，锻炼自己。技术差，陈皓就开始加强学习，疯狂地看书，恶补计算机知识，每逢周末或放假，别人大都出去玩了，他还在看书学习。没有自己的电脑，就到网吧里让网吧老板装编程软件，别人都在打游戏聊天看电影，而陈皓则在写代码，跟周围的人格格不入。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"就这样坚持了一年多，还好是计算机专业科班出生，所以基础还在，陈皓明显的感受到，自己在飞速成长，并且逐渐找到了适合自己的学习方法，一些技术难题也能短时间内轻松解决了。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"他也逐渐意识到，自己在偏离“做出有价值的软件”的初衷。在南天公司，他还是在做银行系统那套东西，只不过从甲方变成了乙方。而外包并不是一条长久之路。外包本质上是劳动密集型工作，技术门槛低，技术含量低，缺乏开创性和创造力，只是代码的操作工。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"陈皓再次决定离开。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"与刚来上海时的情形不同，这时的陈皓已经不愁找工作了，北京的几家公司向他伸来了橄榄枝。2002年，陈皓去了北京，加入了一家做分布式计算平台软件的公司 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