波士顿动力工程副总裁Aaron Saunders: 我们是如何教机器人学会跳舞的

{"type":"doc","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"不久前,波士顿动力发布了"},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fn3KWM1kuAw","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"一段视频"}]},{"type":"text","text":",Atlas、Spot 和 Handle 在视频中跳着“Do You Love Me”。据视频描述,这是“庆祝我们希望这是一个更加快乐的一年的开始”。到截稿为止,这段视频已经被收看了将近 2400 万次,毫不奇怪,在技术力量和创意展示的惊人结合下,这段视频如此流行。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"严格来说,视频中发生的事情并不是突破性的,从某种意义上说,我们没有看到任何一款机器人展现出全新的能力,但是这并不会影响到它给人的印象有多深刻——你所看到的是最先进的"},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/spectrum.ieee.org\/robotics\/humanoids\/how-boston-dynamics-is-redefining-robot-agility","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"人形机器人技术、四足机器人技术,以及不管是什么鬼把手的机器人技术"}]},{"type":"text","text":"。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"这段视频由波士顿动力制作,它的独特之处在于它的艺术元素,大多数都是通过舞蹈编导"},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/twitter.com\/onetruebonc","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"Monica Thomas"}]},{"type":"text","text":"的合作制作的(你可以在"},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/www.madkingthomas.com\/","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"这里"}]},{"type":"text","text":"看到她的其他作品)。我们知道"},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/robots.ieee.org\/robots\/atlas2016\/?utm_source=spectrum","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"Atlas"}]},{"type":"text","text":"能做一些实际的任务,我们也知道它能做体操、跑酷,但跳舞肯定是新鲜的东西。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"为进一步了解这些舞蹈机器人(舞蹈机器人比看上去要复杂得多),我们采访了波士顿动力的工程副总裁"},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/aaron-saunders-28704055\/","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"Aaron Saunders"}]},{"type":"text","text":"。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.infoq.cn\/resource\/image\/76\/02\/76584fd142cd1402ef7c2e526cb46402.png","alt":null,"title":"","style":[{"key":"width","value":"75%"},{"key":"bordertype","value":"none"}],"href":"","fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":"center","origin":null},"content":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/youtu.be\/fn3KWM1kuAw","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"https:\/\/youtu.be\/fn3KWM1kuAw"}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"Saunders 从 2003 年开始在波士顿动力工作,这意味着他参与了波士顿动力大量机器人的研究和开发,甚至包括那些你可能已经忘记的机器人。举例来说,还记得"},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UIipbi0cAVE","title":"","type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"LittleDog"}]},{"type":"text","text":"吗?这个可爱的小四足是由一个两人小组设计和制作的,Saunders 就是其中之一。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"尽管从一开始他就参与了 Atlas 项目(并参与了波士顿动力的其他所有工作),Saunders 在过去几年中一直是 Atlas 团队的负责人,他非常友好地回答了我们有关他们舞蹈机器人的问题。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"blockquote","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"},{"type":"strong"}],"text":"IEEE Spectrum"},{"type":"text","text":": 你如何看待互联网上对这段视频的反应?"}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"},{"type":"strong"}],"text":"Aaron Saunders"},{"type":"text","text":":我们对自己制作的视频有着不同的期望,而这段视频对我们来说绝对是立足于好玩的。YouTube 上的反应对我们来说是创纪录的。我们收到了几百封邮件、几百个电话,大家都在表达了自己的热情,也在分享自己的想法,我们下一步应该怎么做,歌曲如何,舞蹈如何,所以这真的让人觉得很有趣。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"在我 94 岁的奶奶看了 YouTube 的视频后,我最喜欢的反应是,她通过家人发来消息,问我是否教过机器人那些可爱的动作。我认为这段视频可以吸引更多的观众,因为它把古老的音乐和新技术结合起来。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"blockquote","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"}],"text":"IEEE 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的芭蕾动作,并且获得成功。因此,它不是手写的,也不是手工编码的,而是一条管道,它允许你描述一组不同的动作,通过各种不同的输入,然后推动机器人完成。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.infoq.cn\/resource\/image\/e5\/e6\/e52be80ab3e25e491d15f36c65301ee6.jpg","alt":null,"title":"","style":[{"key":"width","value":"75%"},{"key":"bordertype","value":"none"}],"href":"","fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"blockquote","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"}],"text":"IEEE Spectrum"},{"type":"text","text":":在人类舞蹈中,有没有什么东西特别难以迁移到 Atlas?还是说 Atlas 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拥有运动员们所拥有的运动范围和力量,尽管我们继续朝这个方向发展机器人,因为我们相信,为了在商业上广泛使用这类机器人,并最终将其应用到家庭,我们认为机器人必须具备这样的性能。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"机器人最擅长做的事情就是用同样的方法一遍又一遍地做着同样的事情。因此,一旦我们确定了我们想要做什么,当我们用不同的摄影角度拍摄时,机器人就能不停地重复这样做。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"blockquote","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"}],"text":"IEEE Spectrum"},{"type":"text","text":":我能理解你如何用人类舞蹈演员来帮你和 Atlas 一起编排舞步,但是和 Spot,特别是和 Handle 一起编导舞步,是怎么做到的呢?"}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"},{"type":"strong"}],"text":"Aaron Saunders"},{"type":"text","text":":在我看来,和我们一起工作的人们有很多思考运动的天赋,以及思考如何通过运动来表达自己。而且我们的机器人运动能力也很强:它们是动态的、激动人心的、平衡的。因此,我认为我们找到的是,舞蹈演员和机器人如何移动相关联,然后把它塑造成一个故事,无论它是两条腿还是四条腿,这并不重要。如果没有动物运动或者人类行为的模板,你只需更加努力地思考如何去做一些事情,同样也适用于更加务实的商业活动。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"blockquote","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"}],"text":"IEEE Spectrum"},{"type":"text","text":":你教机器人跳舞,或者做体操,或者跑酷,这些经验对你的机器人商业应用方法有什么启示?"}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"},{"type":"strong"}],"text":"Aaron 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的硬件,让它更有动力。舞蹈也许是我们迄今所做的最有力的事。虽然你可能会认为跑酷看起来更具爆发力,但是舞蹈的运动量和速度却令人难以置信。这也花费了几个月的时间;在机器中创建与算法相匹配的能力。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"当我们得到最终的视频序列后,我们只拍了两天。大多数时间是用来研究如何在一组机器人的场景中移动摄像机,以录制一个连续的两分钟的镜头,尽管我们跑动了很多次,录制了很多次舞蹈,但我们仍然可以可靠地重复它。在开场的两分钟的镜头里,没有任何剪切和拼接。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"当然,我们的机器人在硬件方面也存在一些故障需要维护,有时可能会磕磕绊绊地摔倒。这样的行为并不是为了产品化,也不是为了使产品变得百分之百可靠,但是它们肯定是可以重复的。我试着坦率地说出我们能做什么,而非我们曾经做过什么。当你说你已经取得了一些成就时,我感觉到你需要诚实,诚实对我们来说非常重要。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"blockquote","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"italic"}],"text":"IEEE 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