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And that this libido and it is could explain all kinds of psychological problems, illnesses, neurosis, psychosis, schizophrenia, everything. And Jung was skeptical.

力比多可以解釋各種心理問題、身體疾病、神經症、精神病、精神分裂症等。但榮格對此持懷疑態度。


For Jung he associated the libido with psychic energy, are generally reaching back to Schopenhauer, the will which is sometimes manifest as sexuality, sometimes manifest as creativity, sometimes manifest as activity, various different kinds, creativity could manifest itself in many different ways, not always as sexuality. Jung was coming from that kind of a general orientation.

對於榮格而言,他將力比多與精神能量聯繫在一起,這基本上可以追溯到叔本華,意志有時表現爲性慾,有時表現爲創造力,有時表現爲行爲,各種不同的形式,創造力可以以許多不同的方式表現出來,而不是總以性慾的方式。榮格對力比多的解釋是來自那些普遍的方向。


So they were also searching for their explanations the each energy at meaning of neurosis and psychosis, mental illnesses.

因此,他們也在尋找每種能量在神經症、精神症和心理疾病上意義的解釋。


What makes them psychotic and doesn't have any kind of meaning?

是什麼讓他們患了精神病的?沒有任何意義嗎?


So, Freud’s methodology was to let the attention of the patient back to the childhood and early experiences to try to explain what was the first cause of with later show itself up as show itself as  a neurotic symptom or as a psychotic problem.

結果,弗洛伊德的方法是讓病人的注意力回到童年和早期的經歷,以第一次出現神經質症狀或精神病問題的原因,來試圖解釋是什麼導致後來的精神疾病。


And again Jung was somewhat skeptical because he felt that often being cause of the symptoms was not in the far distant past, it was much closer in time, perhaps even immediate. That erotic symptom could be the result of a strong resistance to facing certain difficult issues in life.

榮格再一次產生一些懷疑,因爲他覺得那些症狀的起因,往往並不是在遙遠的過去,而是更近的時間,甚至是即刻的。這種性症狀可能是爲了應對生活中某些困難問題的強烈抗拒的結果。


The Jung tended to focus more on the present and the problems in the present moment of the patient, and Freud tended to look back into the early history of the patient for the explanation.

榮格傾向於更多地關注病人的現狀和當下的問題,而弗洛伊德傾向於追溯病人的早期歷史來尋求解釋。

俄狄浦斯情結(Oedipus complex),即戀母情結。是心理學中精神分析學派用語,源於希臘神話故事《俄狄浦斯王》中的人物俄狄浦斯(Oedip-us),無意中殺父娶母的故事。

——摘自百度百科


As when it came to problems psychosis and serious mental illness like schizophrenia, Jung favored a more biological explanation, Freud favored more psychological explanation.

當涉及到諸如精神分裂症的精神問題和嚴重精神疾病時,榮格更傾向於用生物學的解釋,弗洛伊德更傾向於用心理學的解釋。


And Jung had much more experience with a severe mental illness, psychoses. Then Freud was a neurologist worked with mostly neurotic patients, many of them young women. Jung work in a psychiatric clinic with heavy, heavy mental illness where people were hospitalized for years, sometimes, most of their lives and his impression was that kind of mental illness had biological causes as well, perhaps some psychological causes.

榮格在治療嚴重精神疾病方面有更多的經驗。而弗洛伊德是一位神經病學家,大部分治療的是神經症病人,其中很多是年輕女性。榮格在一所精神科診所工作,裏面的患者都是患有很嚴重的精神疾病,有的患者已經住院很多年,有的人,他們生命中的大部分時間都在醫院。他的印象是那些精神疾病有生物學上的原因,也有心理學上的原因。


And also they were searching for of what we call elemental structures of the psyche, what are the basic root structures of the human psyche.

他們也在尋找我們所謂的心理基本結構,即人類心理的最根本的基礎結構是什麼。


And Freud would focus on the Oedipus problem as being fundamental to every person’s psychological development and Jung again went in a more general direction and talked about a variety of archetypes, archetypal images and developed from there the idea of a collective unconscious.

弗洛伊德將每個人的心理發展的基礎聚焦在俄狄浦斯問題上,榮格再一次採用了更普遍的方向,認爲心理發展的基礎是各種原型,原始意象,並從那裏發展出了集體無意識的概念。


Freud and Jung also became very involved into personal to develop a very strong close relationship during these years when Jung was studying with Freud from 1907 to 1913 basically.

從1907年到1913年,榮格基本上是與弗洛伊德一起學習,在這些年裏,弗洛伊德和榮格也發展出了非常穩固的私人關係。


And Freud was one of Jung's great teachers, he wasn't the only great teacher of Jung, but it was very important one and Jung admired him and looked up to and learned a great deal from him.

弗洛伊德是榮格的傑出老師之一,但他不是榮格的唯一傑出老師,但卻是很重要的一位老師。榮格欽佩他,景仰他,並從他那裏學到了很多東西。

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