左耳朵耗子:打造高效團隊的最佳實踐|GTLC

{"type":"doc","content":[{"type":"blockquote","content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"2021 年 5 月 21-22 日,極客邦旗下科技領導者高端社區 TGO 鯤鵬會主辦的 "},{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https:\/\/gtlc.infoq.cn\/2021\/shanghai?utm_source=infoq&utm_medium=conference","title":null,"type":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"GTLC 全球技術領導力峯會全球總站"}]},{"type":"text","text":" 在上海成功舉辦,吸引全國各地 600 多位 CTO、技術 VP 等科技領導者參與。會上,知名技術博主、MegaEase創始人陳皓分享了主題爲《打造高效團隊最佳實踐》的演講分享,結合自身經驗分享打造高效團隊的必要性以及方法論。我們將演講內容整理如下,以饗讀者。"}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我是陳皓,曾經是亞馬遜、阿里巴巴的首席架構師,專注於雲原生、高併發。這是我第一次從非技術的角度出發來講述企業內部管理,並沒什麼最佳實踐,我其實更多的是和大家一起探討。因爲管理是沒有標準答案的。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我目前在創業,做了一個小公司,我們不到 20 個人的團隊做了很多東西,包括一個整個微服務的基礎架構雲平臺。我自認爲這個小團隊的生產力還行,基本上把一些關鍵技術都做到了,所以在這裏跟大家做一些分享。"}]},{"type":"heading","attrs":{"align":null,"level":2},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"爲什麼要建高效團隊?"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/24\/2466189ba8ab2b9b66bbea2b1928cc38.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"今天,並不是所有的公司都需要高效團隊,但是當處理的業務複雜度、或者交互複雜度、或者服務的用戶數越來越多,你就需要高效團隊了。你需要保證迭代週期能滿足用戶越來越快的需求,這些貌似是很矛盾的。我們是不是要又快又好,然後還要低成本。所以我們的軟件顆粒度也會越來越大,測試的成本也會越來越高,團隊的人數會越來越多,還會分佈在不同區域,管理問題也會越來越多。合作、執行力全都伴隨着問題,這些問題要怎麼解決?"}]},{"type":"heading","attrs":{"align":null,"level":2},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"怎麼建高效的團隊?"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"這裏有好幾個備選答案:"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"bulletedlist","content":[{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"第一個我們用流程來增效,比如敏捷,或者是一些 ISO、CMMI 的流程這樣的東西。"}]}]},{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我們還可以用“權威”,你必須幹這個事,今天干不完就不用下班了。我記得曾經在一家公司做測試的時候,一天內找三個 Bug,找不到不準回家。"}]}]},{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我們還可以用使命感或價值觀,這是中國最喜歡用的,要不停地努力,這是對你好。"}]}]},{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"還有就是給錢,用錢來激勵,這些都是很常用的方法。"}]}]},{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"再來就是打雞血,有各種打法,這個我們最熟悉不過了。"}]}]},{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"還有 KPI,還有 996。這兩個幾乎是所有管理層最喜歡用來建高效團隊的的手段。最後還有提升效率的很好的神器——釘釘。要是老闆發的信息,必須得回,不回的話就有一個奪命釘……"}]}]},{"type":"listitem","attrs":{"listStyle":null},"content":[{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"等等"}]}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"這些都是所謂提高效率的建高效團隊的工具,你們是不是都在用?是不是很爽?(哈哈)"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"這些東西不一定錯,關鍵是看你找到什麼樣的人,有的人就喫這套東西,有的人就是喜歡 996,你不讓他 996,他也不知道能幹啥。"},{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"strong"}],"text":"但今天我要講的是別的東西,這些東西是你的公司或你的團隊要去更高的位置,能解決更復雜更難的問題,能夠有更有價值的產出。如果這個目標是這樣的話,上面的那些招式都不靈了。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"strong"}],"text":"什麼叫高效團隊,一般看的是團隊中的人,團隊中的事,還有團隊領導力。"}]},{"type":"heading","attrs":{"align":null,"level":3},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"團隊中的人"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/68\/681ef1c9eae9770dc6e3c2f39383b71b.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我們先說人,有幾個相關的問題。先來做個假設,我們今天的團隊 \/ 公司,明天要做更高級別的事,對於一個公司來說,這是一個最基本的假設,因爲公司要成長,要去更高的地方。所以如果你的團隊也要去到更高的位置,這個時候,你有兩個選項,一個是招到更高級的人,讓自己團隊的人真正的成長;另一個是一個月 300 小時的工作,幹不完的話,一個月 350 個小時或者一個月 400 個小時,到底是哪一種,才能夠讓你站到更高的位置?"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"什麼樣的人是高效的?我們怎麼找到這些高效的人,高效的人到底有什麼樣的一些素質?這種人難找,又很難培養,怎麼辦?我找不到,我也不會培養怎麼辦?你是花時間教育有問題的人,還是花時間培養有潛力的人,還是花時間尋找優秀的人?這裏留給大家一些思考。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"團隊管理的頭等大事是找到最好的人,沒有之一。你要解決團隊裏面的一些瑣事,讓他們擰成一條線往前走。招聘錯誤的人破壞性極大,正確的人讓團隊管理和建設變得簡單有效。就像 Jeff Bezos 說過的一句話,"},{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"strong"}],"text":"我寧願面 50 個人一個人都招不到,我也不願意降低我的面試標準。"},{"type":"text","text":"是不是就不招人了?也不是,你可以應急隨便招人,但是,如果你明天招來的人,比今天招來的人更差,那就完蛋了。就算今天招的人是最差的,明天也要招比他更好的人,而且要不斷地超過現有一半以上的人,這樣你的團隊纔會越來越好。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/59\/5913bf590de3236e612131f02d993a37.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"那麼,什麼樣的人才是好的人?"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"第一是指能搞定事的人,這是最基本的。獨立完成的意思是,我不用爲了完成這個事情而去找別人幫助,一個正常的團隊成員必須要能獨立完成他自己的事情。然後,當他能夠獨立完成工作後,我們還會對他有第二個要求,用最小的成本完成這個事。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"第二是講方法的人,人和人最大的區別,就是方法。我舉個例子,像數學一樣,我會用微積分,你不會用微積分,你就和我差很多。會用方法的人一定會比不會用方法的人強 N 多倍。方法從哪來?就是要從總結還有學習而來,像我們家小孩上小學,我教他數學題,我就覺得設個未知數,弄個方程式,什麼都能解,但是他不懂這種高級方法,解數學題就得各種繞彎。所以方法是非常重要的。如果不講方法,我個人覺得都是使蠻力的人,講方法的人,平時一定會總結和歸納出很多的套路。不管是編程還是解決問題,如果能會用方法論還有一些模型,那麼他的眼光必然是長遠的。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"第三就是溝通能力比較好的人,除了能夠聽指令,按要求完成工作,更要是能夠把模糊和複雜的東西給表達清楚,如果能夠說服別人的人,那就更好了。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"第四是有領導力的人,堅持高標準、喜歡分享、喜歡思考、喜歡挑戰,還有一些有全局感。如果只能要一個的話,我覺得是標準高,標準高的人一般都有領導力,就是他不能忍。如果一個人能忍了,他就會越來越弱,因爲只要能忍,他就會各種妥協,各種 low 着來,因爲忍是最簡單的。但是,如果一個人不能忍了,他就會有更高的要求,不能忍的人一般都有想去改進的願望,他們就想把這個事情做好。但是,這樣的人可能會和你或你的團隊產生很多摩擦,你可能會覺得這樣的人是團隊的惡果,但是我想告訴你,一旦出現這樣的人,你應該珍惜他。這種人在社會或者組織裏面是很有用的。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"所以,具有領導力的人,標準要高,但是標準比較高的人,通常來說都會讓標準比較低的人覺得格格不入,標準低的人說“幹嘛這麼累”,“爲什麼做那麼好”,“何必呢”,“差不多得了”。這些都是屬於能忍的人。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/15\/156b4d20f5c8fa1b39ff71853195b427.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我們看一個 Google 評分卡。我在 Google 的時候,Google 會給員工讓自評一下,自評在一些技術領域中屬於哪一級別,從 0 到 10,一共十個級別。我仔細看了一下,把它分成三個類別,第一個就是入門,可以實現一些小的改動,瞭解幾個原理。第二能夠獨立完成事,不需要別人幫助檢查,對這個領域非常熟悉,能夠應對所有的日常工作。再往後面,從零開始開發大規模的系統設置,包括一些高級技術的利用,能夠理解一些晦澀的問題。最後一個等級是在領域出一本經典著作,那些可能是認證的大師。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/d5\/d546c30c814b67ea687c87f86a95f338.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"上圖是 Google 找人的標準,依次爲技工、工程師、專家、領導者。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/8c\/8c2371b4953913ef50132424fc1afb67.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我們往後看,什麼是找到人的優勢。首先,我們找人要找特長,人和人之間的差別是一個很可怕的事情,當你見過一些很厲害的人,你會發現不是智商的問題,而是 DNA 問題,基因就是沒長好。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"每次去美國的工程師找他們聊,越聊我覺得我和他們的差距不是學習能夠彌補的,我覺得這是 DNA 的事情。有的人的特長就是他能天生高出他的同齡人,有的人就是學得快。比如說聽音樂,有的人就是會比一般人對這個事情敏感。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"還有如果能找到有興趣的人,就那種不服輸的精神,說“我不要錢,我自己願意去幹,對這個東西很感興趣”,那是嘴巴上的,得是“我不服輸,再苦都願意堅持”,這才叫做興趣,是對某個事情很着迷。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"接着纔到方法,大多數人如果懂方法的話,有時間觀念,會做計劃,不磨蹭,對做過的事情總結,喜歡自己找答案,自己理清事情的因果關係,不希望直接要答案,這種人喜歡追求原理,懂原理的人會一通百通,懂原理的人也能夠突破自己的天花板。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"然後是經驗,其實經驗有很多東西,受過良好的教育,有不錯的工作經歷等等。最後纔是勤奮,勤奮就是個老黃牛,我可以告訴大家,勤奮解決不了太多的問題,勤奮不可能把你所有方面往上提的。經驗也不太可能,只有前面三種,纔有可能是一個人的主導優勢。你要找的人,或多或少一定要有 1 至 2 個點。如果找不到這樣的點的話,先從自己開始,培養自己。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"下圖是我給我們團隊做的成員劃分,"},{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"strong"}],"text":"一個是驅動者,一個是優化者,還有貢獻者。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/1f\/1f12d0ee3fec6c905f6050fb89330326.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"驅動者,基本上是公司的頂樑柱,也算是合夥人,他們要做出貢獻和帶着團隊往前走。任何一家公司都會有人帶着往前走,那個人就是驅動者,所謂的“老司機”。他還需要有創新優化的能力,還有前瞻能力,能抓重點是極其重要的,因爲任何事情都是有重點的。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/80\/809c176e9508cbcc40ff17fe24e527f5.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"優化者,意思是有探路能力,雖然不知道去哪,但是告訴他方向,沒有路了他也會去找。這條路上有很多很多的坑,也沒事,他都能搞得定,“只要告訴我去哪,我就一定能達到目標,因爲我會用方法,我有解決問題的手段”。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/d7\/d7a48703ea6fe725ed5e4cf5d234d834.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"貢獻者是公司的執行力量,不是說把事情弄完就好了,還得做降低成本、提升效率的事情,而且還要夠穩定可靠。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"除了這三種人以外,剩下的人都是可以替代的。他不是你的核心團隊成員,只是你的員工,是流水的兵。但是,如果你的團隊裏沒有這三種人,你會很難受,或多或少要有幾個這樣的人。你要找到這樣的人,你纔可能提升你的團隊。這種人是不可能通過 KPI,也不可能通過用釘釘,也不可能打雞血,灌他使命感,他就能擁有這些能力的。"}]},{"type":"heading","attrs":{"align":null,"level":3},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"團隊中的事"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/61\/61b2b84ec289f08003a31b32bfed9f38.png","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"團隊運作的效率是做得更多還是跑得更快?快速迭代,快速試錯是最有效的嗎?互聯網實踐就是趕快失敗,趕快試錯。另外一句常說的話是,戰略上的不努力就導致戰術上的勤奮。沒想清楚就幹,這是非常不好的。就像我們代碼寫不好,你就測試,測試不努力,你就運維努力,運維不努力,那你的客服就得努力了。總要有努力的人,這個努力的點越往前,成本就越低、也越有效。哪些東西在阻礙生產的事,是管理、溝通、流程、工具還是人員?什麼是有效率的生產?勞動密集型,規模化還是自動化?"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/34\/3481ee2401d94711e256b687622b4b32.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"這是效率的物理學公式,可以看出,不是要比別人乾的活多,也不是比別人幹得快,而是所幹的有多少是有用的。所以要增加效率的話,要麼增加有用功,要麼就降低總功。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"在亞馬遜,程序員拿到需求的第一句話就是,我爲什麼要做這個需求,這個需求有什麼用?其實有時候你追問爲什麼,你會覺得有點不太好,但是如果你的組織都在追問爲什麼的話,其實你的效率可以提高到很快——因爲你會不停追求真理和有價值的事,如果一個團隊裏大家都在這麼做的話,這個團隊是非常強的。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我們有些時候說老大要跟下面人去講,我們的共同目標是什麼,我覺得這個其實是沒有效果的。因爲老大講出來目標,說我們要去哪,別人理解起來是有問題的,不一定會理解得很好。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"但是如果反向,讓他自己來追問,自己去探尋,我們公司要去哪,到底要幹什麼樣,只有自己思考過的,纔會更好。小時候父母老是給我們壓了不少他們所謂的理想,但你自己不去思考的話,不去經歷的話,你永遠不知道父母爲什麼要告訴我要學這個,要幹那個事,帶團隊也是一樣的道理。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"所以需要讓他們經常性地自己來問,爲什麼要幹這個事。可能會有很多的噪音,認爲“不要問爲什麼,去幹就行了”的團隊,這種管理沒問題,有時候我們需要這樣的執行裏,但是如果你要是希望以後團隊往上去的話,那麼你需要開始問爲什麼。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/44\/4464cb1b2f7b09831cd53769418669c6.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"抓重點,任何成功的公司都是會抓重點的,不會是一開始什麼都幹,亞馬遜一開始賣書,然後賣玩具,京東也一樣,阿里也一樣。阿里這個公司最厲害的我覺得就是抓重點,什麼時間點該幹什麼,抓得準準的。該做支付寶的時候做支付寶,該做天貓的時候做天貓,該做阿里雲的時候做阿里雲,相當厲害,每一個都抓住了。只要你抓住重點,可以犯一萬個錯誤,阿里的錯誤是我所見過的公司裏犯最多的,無所謂,重點抓得對,隨便犯。所以你方向對了,犯再多的錯誤都無所謂。這就是爲什麼我覺得提升效率三板斧的第一個是抓重點。很多公司都抓不住重點,覺得什麼都能幹。有公司老是看競爭對手,競爭對手幹什麼也幹什麼,這其實是同質化競爭,應該自己想想怎麼樣幹更高級一些。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"舉個例子,移動互聯網來的時候,有兩家公司都受到很大的衝擊,一個是百度,一個是 Google,廣告是這兩個搜索公司賴以生存的東西,如果他們不改這兩個公司一定沒有生存之路。Google 幹了一個事,開源了安卓操作系統,百度幹了一個事,百度外賣。Google 不是個開源公司,死了 200 多個產品,它都不開源,爲什麼安卓它要開源?試想 Google 如果不開源安卓操作系統,那麼今天手機市場只有兩個公司,一個是蘋果,另外一個是微軟。所以 Google 開源了安卓以後,就讓天下人去做安卓系統,去跟蘋果還有像微軟這樣的公司抗衡,這樣能保住它的市場。百度沒有抓住重點,所以,掉隊了。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"抓重點是非常重要的事,我們團隊也是類似,我們覺得一年能做成一件事就已經很不錯了。我到很多公司裏面去看,他們都說你看我一年幹十件事,我一年幹了二十件事,其實一年幹成一件事情,把一件事情做好就很好了。像我們每季度開會,一個季度就做兩到三個 feature,但是想清楚我們要做哪個。有時候公司人多了以後,就會去想,這些人我得給他安排點什麼事,不能讓他閒着。如果你的團隊人少,你就會想另一個事:我的團隊做不過來這麼多,那麼哪一些更重要?如果想要促成高效團隊,就要讓自己餓着,讓自己條件受限,只有條件受限了,纔會想着用工具,纔會想着簡化,纔會想着抓重點。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"自動化,簡化導致標準化,標準化導致自動化,自動化導致規模化,這是我總結的。如果不規模化的話就不會有效率。五年前,亞馬遜全球的機房加起來的虛擬機一共有 2400 多萬臺,然後開發人員是又做開發又做測試又做運維,從頭做到尾,前端、後端、開發與測試、運維全覆蓋。兩三千工程師運維兩千多萬臺服務器。兩千萬臺服務器是不可能用人工來運營的,思維方式完全不一樣了。只能用人去管程序,程序去管機器。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"降低成本,最重要的是去除一些支持性的工作。有的工作開發是叫產出性的,但是我們也有可能把它做成支持性的工作。測試、運維這些很大程度上也是,包括經理都是支持性的。當你的組織裏面,支持性的工作的人越多,你的健康度就越糟糕。產出性的人越多,你就越好。對團隊對公司同樣有效,你招一個程序員,覺得代碼不好,你就給配一個測試人員,你覺得他需求分析不好,給他配一個需求分析人員,覺得項目管不好,給他配一個項目管理人員,你覺得運維不好,給他配個運維。當支持性的人越來越多的時候,整體效率就是往下降的。別說效率往下降了,整個團隊的生存都會受到問題。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/59\/59f051b4a023fabcd006ad3e4cb328a4.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"有兩種管理方式,這是 StackOverflow 上提出的,一個是電影工作組,一個是小商品工廠。電影工作組就有編劇、導演、演員,每個人都是領導者,都是在每一個分支、在各自的領域都是一個小領導,所以這羣人是可以很快地拍個電影出來,他需要每個人的專業發揮,才能拍出一部好的電影。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"小商品工廠不是這樣,他們假設人就是懶惰的,人覺得工作越少越好,他們招來的人基本都是這樣,對公司目標不關心。所以強迫、威脅、處罰等無所不用,去威脅、去用錢激勵、用釘釘讓打卡、996,無所不用,這就是小商品工廠。所以這種公司一般組織單元和人員很多,因爲對員工不信任,審批和流程極其嚴重,幹什麼事情都要走各種流程,整個組織運作的效率非常之低。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/e7\/e7aae123b12c8eb8689f974df455ce6c.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"還有兩個關鍵點,設置共同的目標,傾向使用小團隊。拆解大的問題,全功能小團隊,專注和簡化。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"設置共同目標,就是一定要明確你要什麼不要什麼。如果什麼都要的話,是沒有共同目標的。我往這條路走,那條路就不過去了。如果這些我都要選,這就不是目標了,目標一定要有取捨。像登山隊,如果你的團隊想登高峯的話,就會越來越強。如果不想登高峯的話,那是另外一回事。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/07\/07479f682a2e26a7fdf5e1d246b8d1eb.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"這是亞馬遜的一些文化,喫自己的狗糧,自己的東西要自己用。Two Pizza Team,如果你的團隊用兩個披薩還喂不飽,你的團隊的尺寸就大了,那你就要分解你做的事情了。還有一點,亞馬遜喜歡簡化和自動化。沒有 Kitchen Sink(水槽),不能什麼東西都往裏放,因爲這樣無法運營和運維。還有 Tenets Culture,這個像“憲法”是每個團隊都有,每年都要更新一次。然後是關注 SLA,在你做產品的時候,先寫 3 個文檔,分別是 Press Release、User Manual 和 FAQ,不能有圖片,只能兩頁紙,這意味着你的產品要是簡單的。這些只是亞馬遜通過用來提升效率其中的一些手段和方法。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/40\/40808ec2a82a464efa200cf4feb58529.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"關於開會,我覺得國內開會簡直太可怕,總結下來,第一是沒有議題。我覺得開會一定要有議案,聊之前是不是拿出兩個方案,連方案都沒有聊什麼。國內一些開會其實是政治博弈,會找各種各樣的理由不做這個事情,或者是溝通協調不了。你一定要拿出議案,要不然那個會議一點意義都沒有。所以我給大家建議,一定要拿方案,沒有方案的話,先去找領導。先在下面把人搞定,人數越多越要有議案。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/dd\/dd375875d6d96d823b40b3b705c17730.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"解決爭議,要有責任人,而且還有議事規則。像我們公司,第一標準是工業標準,第二標準是國外標準,第三標準纔是自己的經驗,這樣做是爲了解決爭議。你說這個方案有用,找個引用給我看看。找不出來的話,對不起,我不認可。哪個大公司是這麼幹的,哪篇論文是這麼寫的,哪個開源軟件是這麼實現的?找不到的話我不會認。找不到的話,你去寫個論文,告訴大家我覺得這個方案挺好的,聽聽大家怎麼說,大家都覺得讚了,我們再用。然後我們還要多方案比較,確定要什麼不要什麼。會前充分決議,會後一旦形成決議,不同意也得支持。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/86\/86d33ff917e51ab73486a3cedf583a4a.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"上面是一些有效爭論,要有產品的一些原則,沒有原則的話,那就沒辦法了。今天我可以把你拐到這個路上,明天他也可以把你拐到那條路上。所以任何事情要有自己的定位和原則,要想選一個大方案,然後分治法。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"很多人說,陳皓你講這個東西挺好,但是我們非常忙,沒有時間來幹這個事。這其實是在混淆很多東西,忙併不是你不去那個地方的理由,你忙應該去解決的是你項目管理時間安排的問題,而不是找到一個藉口說,你這個東西我弄不了。你看,你要隨時把各種問題給分開,就是你忙歸忙,這是時間管理的問題,但是你不去這個地方的話,標準提不上去,你自己不學習、不進步的話,那是另外一個問題。如果人能力不行,你可以招聘,可以培訓,但是你不能說,人的能力不行了,所以,我也就不必用更高的標準做事了。人爲自己找理由的能力,不學也會。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"把很多的事情混淆在一起談,是相當多的人喜歡玩的一個討論方式。所以我一般談很多事情的時候,一定要把它切分開,誰是誰的。不要我在說這個問題,然後你跟我說別的問題。所以很多公司請我去交流,基本上都會被我問得啞口無言,因爲我有分治法,他無法混爲一談。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"有的人跟我說成本問題,他們就,你說這個挺好,成本是不是要求挺高的?我說你不這麼做你就沒成本了嗎?你上線的速度快了,問題也很多,未來不斷返工,代碼質量越來越爛,人都走完了,這個不是成本嗎?長期成本 vs 短期成本的問題。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/f7\/f7522d2230effe4996f10b89db8d633e.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"其它的一些實踐,任何事情都要有一個責任人。文檔是一種深度思考,一定要學會寫文檔。做正確的決定,用數據和權威引用支持。模型化,一定要縮減支持性的工作,然後演示 Demo,你做什麼東西,每個月找個時間來給團隊做演示,當要把事情演示出來,人就會變得認真了。1-2-3 法則,1 小時沒有思路,找個人討論,2 小時沒有結果,請上升到團隊,3 個小時沒有結果的話,請上升到整個公司。"}]},{"type":"heading","attrs":{"align":null,"level":3},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"團隊的領導"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"所謂領導力其實不是職位,不是頭銜,更不是稱號,是別人有問題會來聽你建議的一種現象。別人由心裏願意跟隨你,願意聽你指教的一種現象。別人學習你、參照你、模仿你的一種現象。別人願意模仿你、願意跟隨你。你必須要以身作則,要求別人做到之前自己先做到,Leader 是一個團隊裏面的天花板。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/2a\/2a6617f52ea28a5bd8935926742784f7.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"能力轉換模型,首先你的視野要開,你不可能思考你看不見的東西,所以你的信息源很重要。還有另外一點是,你有了認知以後就要學習,系統化地學習才能得到知識。然後去實踐,才能把知識轉變爲技能,這是一個三部曲。現在一些培訓基本上都只到認知,到不了知識和技能。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/52\/52970b755115db153aab0f1fa28b328d.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"我覺得領導帶領團隊,你的標準要高,要去解決問題,然後要有創造力。創新沒有也沒問題,但是你的標準要高,要找方法。不要用蠻力,用巧力,然後要學會解決問題,拆解難題。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/bd\/bdb455289139cdcab71ea0817b6d880c.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"這是我的一些思考過程,我覺得還是挺有用的。先把數據事實拿出來,數據和事實是沒有意義的,你只有在它們之間關聯,把它進行分類以後,纔有信息。你不分類,不結構化的話,數據是沒有意義的,所以我們叫 Information Technology 不叫 Data Technology。Data 是沒有用的,你必須對它進行歸類,纔會有信息。有了信息以後數據纔有用,在信息中找到它們的一些因果關係,你才能知道因爲這個東西纔會導致那個東西。這個我們叫知識,有了知識以後是可以複製的,可以總結出方法,方法纔會形成智慧。想想我們的科學實驗,一遍一遍地做實驗,做實驗其實就是要數據,結構化數據,中間找關聯,然後再往前走,如果總結起來它就是個公式,所以智慧就是這麼來的,這是我的一個思維方式。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"image","attrs":{"src":"https:\/\/static001.geekbang.org\/wechat\/images\/9e\/9e60e9f00c5c5f01452f47296315efa2.jpeg","alt":null,"title":null,"style":null,"href":null,"fromPaste":false,"pastePass":false}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"還有另外一個思維模式。我在學習的時候,你說這個東西好不好,我去看歷史,去看統計,歷史上有沒有類似的事情發生過,如果歷史上沒有類似事情發生過,那麼也有很大機率會發生。歷史的發展總是有規律。另外看它的實用性,看它的價值,我會學一些經濟學原理。我還喜歡用法律和程序,事情可以有很多說法,但如果是以法律的角度出發會比較嚴謹。法律和程序這兩個東西很相似,因爲都是講邏輯的,是講規則的,而且是非常嚴謹和精確。所以喬布斯也建議大家要學法律和程序,它們的方法論是相通的。"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","marks":[{"type":"strong"}],"text":"演講嘉賓介紹:"}]},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null}},{"type":"paragraph","attrs":{"indent":0,"number":0,"align":null,"origin":null},"content":[{"type":"text","text":"陳皓(左耳朵耗子),前亞馬遜高級研發經理,阿里巴巴資深架構師技術總監。目前創業,爲 MegaEase 公司創始人,致力於爲企業用戶提供一個可以不改一行代碼就可以提高系統性能和穩定性的產品,即 Cloud Native 和微服務調度。"}]}]}
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